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Robert_J_Ellis
09-26-2005, 04:20 PM
Graphite Pro - Subdreamers Light 1.1
Screenshot:
http://www.subdreamer.org/plugins/p13_download_manager/images/tb_30.jpg (http://www.subdreamer.org/plugins/p13_download_manager/images/30.jpg)
Download Link:
http://www.subdreamer.org/sd_skins/p13_sec...2/p13_fileid/30 (http://www.subdreamer.org/sd_skins/p13_sectionid/2/p13_fileid/30)
Description:
Graphite Pro, what is it ? Put simply it's a skin controlled by various external stylesheets. These stylesheets are painstakingly made in such a way to increase performance and speed while also offering near limitless customisation. Here's a list of the few key features: Gzipped PHP css ( makes your css cache, and run in half the time )
A header css file - controls the header in both the forumskin, and the site.
A categories css file - controls the dropdown menus with css, and category colours overall sitewide.
Xhtml 1.0 valid core code.
1, 2 or 3 column design including full page in only two design files. Choose ten slots per column ( perfect for sites demanding more content. ).
Choose from two side plugin styles ( clean -white- or bevelled -blue- ).
Liquid or static width with individual control in both the forumskin, and the site.
Minimum width for both the forum, the site, the center plugins, the side plugins.
Choice of width values for all side plugins marked in the css files.
Choice of text, title, and link colours for all individual plugin styles ( center, left, right ( clean, bevelled ).
Choice of vertical spacing between side plugins.
Ok, so now that you know about some of the features of Graphite Pro, let's do a breakdown of what file does what.
skins/Graphite_Pro/css/se/se.php ( Site Effects )
This file is not loaded by the forumskin, meaning that this file controls all plugin styles, text formatting, and html structure. You can also control the site's width, main width within this file.
skins/Graphite_Pro/css/sw/sw.php ( Site Wide )
This file controls both the forumskin, and the site. You can also choose forumskin specific width, and minimum width within this file. I reccomend that you do'nt fiddle with this file too much, the nature of graphite Pro is to make it easier for you to change the colours of text and widths; However, this does take a lot of forethought to program in - to make this possible very advanced coding is used.
There will always be a warning when the more complicated code begins in the main control files
skins/Graphite_Pro/css/head/header.php ( Site Wide Header control )
It's never been easier to make your own header for a subdreamer skin before. This file is possibly the simplest way via css to control a header - allowing for a liquid, flowing design. Do'nt forget that you can control the site's minimum width; allowing you to make your header stretch or squish exactly as you intended.
skins/Graphite_Pro/css/cat/cat.php ( Site Wide categories control )
Here control the colour and style of all category functions. Changing text colours sitewide, including the dropdown menus has never been easier. Everything is well marked, and it's a simple matter to change the background colours for the dropdown menus too. Even image css backgrounds are possible.
Attention: phpbb users
There is xhtml formatting within Graphite Pro's forumskin; to make sure that everything works as intended, please follow these simple instructions:
You must do this to all skins which you have installed, and operating through subdreamer. Before doing this, make sure to go into your subdreamer admin CP, go to "forum integration" and press "restore forumskin" for each skin.
Make sure to use textpad, or notepad to open this ! Dreamweaver will wreck this file !
Open: templates/subsilver(for example )/Overall_header.tpl[/b]
Find ( at line 1)
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html dir="{S_CONTENT_DIRECTION}">
replace with
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html dir="{S_CONTENT_DIRECTION}" xml:lang="en" lang="en" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
Save, upload - and reskin your forums.
Quick Tutorial
Change The Categories looksOk, so this is probably one of the simplest things to do with Graphite Pro, and that would be to change the Colours of the main Categories ( not the dropdown link colours ).
Open: Graphite_Pro/css/cat/cat.php
find:
/* || Menu Text formatting || */
/* Main (link) */
a.sdcategory:link, a.sdcategory:visited, a.category:link, a.category:visited, .cat-def, .for-def**{
color: rgb(0,0,0);
font-family: Verdana, Arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: bold;
font-variant: inherit;
font-size: 8pt;
text-decoration: none;
}
/* Main (active) */**
a.sdcategory:active, a.category:active, .cat-cli, .for-cli {
color: rgb(145,179,213);
font-family: Verdana, Arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: bold;
font-variant: inherit;
font-size: 8pt;
text-decoration: none;
}
/* Main (hover) */**
a.sdcategory:hover, a.category:hover, .cat-hov, .for-hov {
color: rgb(56,101,148);
font-family: Verdana, Arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: bold;
font-variant: inherit;
font-size: 8pt;
text-decoration: none;
}
Ok, so when people are used to seeing colours in html or css - they normally see something like this:
color: #ffffff;
An RGB ( Red Green Blue ) colour is a mixture of the three to make the final result. If you wish to use black text for instance. the value would look like this:
/* Main (active) */**
a.sdcategory:active, a.category:active, .cat-cli, .for-cli {
color: rgb(145,179,213);
font-family: Verdana, Arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: bold;
font-variant: inherit;
font-size: 8pt;
text-decoration: none;
}
And here's what it would look like if it was white:
/* Main (active) */**
a.sdcategory:active, a.category:active, .cat-cli, .for-cli {
color: rgb(255,255,255);
font-family: Verdana, Arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: bold;
font-variant: inherit;
font-size: 8pt;
text-decoration: none;
}
Info: why did we place rgb instead of hex ?
rgb is better handled by xhtml, and supports more browsers and operating systems.
Change The Dropdown Menu's text coloursSo, like we had to change colours for the Main categories so to can you use the same method to get a different look.
The code in cat.php ( below the main categories also controls the dropdown menu's text.
/* Dropdown (link) */
.a-def {
height: 16px;
color: rgb(145,185,208);
font-family: Verdana, Arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-variant: inherit;
font-size: 7pt;
}
Change the Plugin text coloursLooking through se.php can be seem very daunting, there seems to be no end of code. However, know that link and text formatting is listed alphabetically.
Here's an example:
/* | Bevelled L/R D1/2 Text/Link formatting**| */
/* Bev - L/R D1/2 Title Positioning -- */
div.pbl1A, div.pbl2A, div.pbr1A, div.pbr2A {
text-align: center;
}
/* Bev - L/R D1/2 Title Text */
span.pbl1a, span.pbl2a, span.pbr1a, span.pbr2a {
color: rgb(255,255,255);
font-weight: bold;
}
/* Bevelled - L/R D1/2 text */
td.pbl1B, td.pbr1B, td.pbl2B, td.pbr2B, td.pbl1B table, td.pbr1B table, td.pbl2B table, td.pbr2B table, td.pbl1B div,
td.pbr1B div, td.pbl2B div, td.pbr2B div {
color: rgb(255,255,255);
}
/* Bev - L/R D1/2 links ( link ) */
td.pbl1B a:link, td.pbr1B a:link, td.pbl2B a:link, td.pbr2B a:link, td.pbl1B table a:link, td.pbr1B table a:link, td.pbl2B table a:link,
td.pbr2B table a:link, td.pbl1B div a:link, td.pbr1B div a:link, td.pbl2B div a:link, td.pbr2B div a:link {
color: rgb(68,124,157);
}
/* Bev - L/R D1/2 links ( visited ) */
td.pbl1B a:visited, td.pbr1B a:visited, td.pbl2B a:visited, td.pbr2B a:visited, td.pbl1B table a:visited, td.pbr1B table a:visited, td.pbl2B table a:visited,
td.pbr2B table a:visited, td.pbl1B div a:visited, td.pbr1B div a:visited, td.pbl2B div a:visited, td.pbr2B div a:visited {
color: rgb(68,124,157);
}
/* Bev - L/R D1/2 links ( hover ) */
td.pbl1B a:hover, td.pbr1B a:hover, td.pbl2B a:hover, td.pbr2B a:hover td.pbl1B table a:hover, td.pbr1B table a:hover, td.pbl2B table a:hover,
td.pbr2B table a:hover, td.pbl1B div a:hover, td.pbr1B div a:hover, td.pbl2B div a:hover, td.pbr2B div a:hover {
color: rgb(35,65,82);
}
/* Bev - L/R D1/2 links ( active ) */
td.pbl1B a:active, td.pbr1B a:active, td.pbl2B a:active, td.pbr2B a:active, td.pbl1B table a:active, td.pbr1B table a:active, td.pbl2B table a:active,
td.pbr2B table a:active, td.pbl1B div a:active, td.pbr1B div a:active, td.pbl2B div a:active, td.pbr2B div a:active {
color: rgb(255,255,255);
}
You will find the same examples for each Bevelled ( the darker plugins ), Clean ( the plugins with a white background ), and for the Center Plugin ( obviously the center content )
Use RGB Values to change these to your heart's desire, ergo the freedom of using various external stylesheets with different purposes, built on a modular core code.
Hint: You may use the colour picker in both dreamweaver and photoshop to find RGB colour values.
Terminator1138
09-26-2005, 07:00 PM
looks good and sounds good.
I think that you have good intentions on actually delivering a skin that is not gamy or that is true to a professional site.
Zacman
09-26-2005, 07:51 PM
More power to you Robert_J_Ellis always nice to see things like this.
thomas
09-26-2005, 11:22 PM
well done robert. this would have taken forever!!
keep up the good work
Terminator1138
09-27-2005, 02:04 AM
I also have to applaud his decision to make this a skin for others to try and enjoy. :)
d_source
09-27-2005, 07:37 AM
*Congratulation Robert*
Nice clean work :rolleyes:
Greetings
d_source
Robert_J_Ellis
09-27-2005, 08:38 PM
Added the dark blue background modification I'd promised :). Download at the top of this thread.
d_source
09-28-2005, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Robert_J_Ellis@Sep 27 2005, 08:38 PM
Added the dark blue background modification I'd promised :). Download at the top of this thread.
1395
The other background was a little bit cleaner not so blue :P
Greetings
Robert_J_Ellis
09-28-2005, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by d_source@Sep 28 2005, 04:00 AM
The other background was a little bit cleaner not so blue* :P
Greetings
1409
Yes, and is'nt it nice to have a choice in the matter ? Having both is better :D.
d_source
09-28-2005, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Robert_J_Ellis@Sep 28 2005, 08:46 AM
Yes, and is'nt it nice to have a choice in the matter ? Having both is better :D.
1413
Yes absolutly Robert but the other background I like personal ! Choice is great :D
Hope for more... :P
Robert_J_Ellis
09-28-2005, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by d_source@Sep 28 2005, 04:59 AM
Yes absolutly Robert but the other background I like personal ! Choice is great* :D
Hope for more...* :P
1415
Added " revert to original BG" modification for your use. For those who liked the original BG and switched to the other, this file is for you.
I've also fixed the base code of Graphite Pro as requested.
d_source
09-28-2005, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Robert_J_Ellis@Sep 28 2005, 01:28 PM
Added " revert to original BG" modification for your use. For those who liked the original BG and switched to the other, this file is for you.
I've also fixed the base code of Graphite Pro as requested.
1426
thx :D
Robert_J_Ellis
09-28-2005, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by d_source@Sep 28 2005, 09:43 AM
thx* :D
1428
Big hug ^^
http://www.sddepot.com/images/sd_org/big_hug.jpg
Swanny
09-28-2005, 03:53 PM
Thanks, I just love the DB version. This is a perfect fit for my site. :)
I'm having one problem, and it's not a problem with the skin, it's my knowledge of CSS. I am having troulbe fitting my logo in under the black border in the header. My logo is 300px height and the black border at the top overlaps it. I tried changing the css header to 300px and it just makes the black bigger. What is it that I should edit to fit my logo properly?
Thanks again, I was wating for a skin like this, while I continue to learn all this stuff. :)
Robert_J_Ellis
09-28-2005, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Swanny@Sep 28 2005, 11:53 AM
Thanks, I just love the DB version.* This is a perfect fit for my site.* :)
I'm having one problem, and it's not a problem with the skin, it's my knowledge of CSS.* I am having troulbe fitting my logo in under the black border in the header.* My logo is 300px height and the black border at the top overlaps it.* I tried changing the css header to 300px and it just makes the black bigger.* What is it that I should edit to fit my logo properly?
Thanks again, I was wating for a skin like this, while I continue to learn all this stuff.* :)
1433
Hmm, pm me and I shall send you my email address. Then you can send your logo; and I can attempt to resize it. If this is'nt possible I will design a similiar header in a larger scale.
Robert_J_Ellis
09-28-2005, 06:24 PM
Added a changed files .zip for all of the fixes recently added. Look in the bottom of the first post for the download link. It's rather crucial that you use this update as it fixes some css code related to graphics and effects.
This way you do not have to re-upload everything. For those using the Dark Blue bg mod, just re-upload the package, and you're good to go.
Thanks,
Robert
Swanny
09-28-2005, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Robert_J_Ellis@Sep 28 2005, 11:20 AM
Hmm, pm me and I shall send you my email address. Then you can send your logo; and I can attempt to resize it. If this is'nt possible I will design a similiar header in a larger scale.
1434
Outstanding! Thank you so much, it looks fantastic now. :)
Robert_J_Ellis
09-28-2005, 07:45 PM
For Scott :), this is sort of the idea of your desired colour scheme which I'd go for. I'll get started on it tommorow or the next day. This image is just for example and does not reflect the final product.
[attachmentid=148]
Scott
09-28-2005, 08:07 PM
Looking great thanks alot.
thomas
09-28-2005, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Robert_J_Ellis@Sep 29 2005, 01:05 AM
Big hug ^^
http://www.sddepot.com/images/sd_org/big_hug.jpg
1430
LOL. omg, Robert_J_Ellis, is that you? its alwasy a suprise to see who your talking to instead of just a name
:D
Robert_J_Ellis
09-29-2005, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by thomas@Sep 28 2005, 07:19 PM
LOL. omg, Robert_J_Ellis, is that you? its alwasy a suprise to see who your talking to instead of just a name
:D
1459
That's me :)
joker20
09-29-2005, 01:59 PM
Nice work !! :)
Robert_J_Ellis
09-30-2005, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by joker20@Sep 29 2005, 09:59 AM
Nice work !! :)
1471
Thanks :D.
Oh, and Scott; starting work on your modification :).
code_renegade
10-01-2005, 04:37 AM
It's such a lovely skin, Robert. Might we be seeing more colour variations in the future? I think a reddish skin will look lovely :)
Robert_J_Ellis
10-01-2005, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by code_renegade@Oct 1 2005, 12:37 AM
It's such a lovely skin, Robert. Might we be seeing more colour variations in the future? I think a reddish skin will look lovely :)
1486
Well, it's free; just one-two mods. However, each month I will make a free theme for Graphite Pro. I'll be adding modifications and support to sddepot for the free themes and mods. Slowly getting to it.
code_renegade
10-01-2005, 06:23 PM
Definitely looking forward to your generous contributions, Robert. Thanks! :D
code_renegade
10-01-2005, 06:35 PM
Might be a silly question to ask, but I'd like to get my own header image up there for this skin. How do I go about doing that?
Robert_J_Ellis
10-01-2005, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by code_renegade@Oct 1 2005, 02:35 PM
Might be a silly question to ask, but I'd like to get my own header image up there for this skin. How do I go about doing that?
1504
Hmm well you open css/header/GP_Header.css If you understand php; it's pretty simple. if not A guide will be written at some time or other.
Greg Thimmes
10-01-2005, 10:05 PM
Is there anyway I could get this skin in a red/yellow theme? Like red background and borders with yellow links that hover to red? If anyone would take the time im willing to possibly pay for it. I absolutely love this skin.
Robert_J_Ellis
10-01-2005, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by Greg Thimmes@Oct 1 2005, 06:05 PM
Is there anyway I could get this skin in a red/yellow theme?* Like red background and borders with yellow links that hover to red?* If anyone would take the time im willing to possibly pay for it.* I absolutely love this skin.
1509
If you're willing to pay for it, purchase a subscription at http://www.sddepot.com and I'll get right on it. I promised one free background modification, and a theme colour modification which is almost done, beyond that I have a business to run.
I'll make it any colour you want as well as eventually offer gads of headers and category changes as planned. I can improve upon it to make a pro version with more taken into account and more features. I will keep this in mind for future releases as I am starting to see that it is somewhat confusing.
This does not change anything in that I do plan to offer free variations each month to add to subdreamer.org's collection. I think I will name it Graphite Light for versions here. Keeping the code consistent with the pro version for both customers and people enjoying the free product is important to me.
Robert
Greg Thimmes
10-02-2005, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by Robert_J_Ellis@Oct 1 2005, 06:08 PM
If you're willing to pay for it, purchase a subscription at http://www.sddepot.com and I'll get right on it. I promised one free background modification, and a theme colour modification which is almost done, beyond that I have a business to run.
I'll make it any colour you want as well as eventually offer gads of headers and category changes as planned. I can improve upon it to make a pro version with more taken into account and more features. I will keep this in mind for future releases as I am starting to see that it is somewhat confusing.
This does not change anything in that I do plan to offer free variations each month to add to subdreamer.org's collection. I think I will name it Graphite Light for versions here. Keeping the code consistent with the pro version for both customers and people enjoying the free product is important to me.
Robert
1511
So wait, is what Im paying for is a custom skin? Or is it just a mod for the skins u have? I have a music website and would like to have a custom skin for it that nobody else can have.
code_renegade
10-02-2005, 05:39 AM
Besides naming the version you post here as Graphite Light, what differences does it have compared to the Pro version you are selling on your site?
thomas
10-02-2005, 06:04 AM
its fair enough, its his time and also his designs.
i believe what robert is trying to say is - if you keep on asking for different designs and also more featurers - he will make you pay for it.
if you want different designs and such, robert provides it at a cost, you will need to talk to him about that personally on his website or pm him.
if not, you should try to modify the skin yourself
we are fortunate enough to have robert design this skin we are using subdreamer.org at the moment
Greg Thimmes
10-02-2005, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by thomas@Oct 2 2005, 01:04 AM
its fair enough, its his time and also his designs.
i believe what robert is trying to say is - if you keep on asking for different designs and also more featurers - he will make you pay for it.
if you want different designs and such, robert provides it at a cost, you will need to talk to him about that personally on his website or pm him.
if not, you should try to modify the skin yourself
we are fortunate enough to have robert design this skin we are using subdreamer.org at the moment
1518
I agree on everything you said, subdreamer is an amazing piece of work and I value everyones hard work. I tried modifying the skin myself and failed big time. I am having a problem with my forum skinning my logo. Its wanting to use my logo in my forum folder instead of my skins folder. Any word on that?
abcohen
10-02-2005, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Greg Thimmes@Oct 2 2005, 02:08 AM
I agree on everything you said, subdreamer is an amazing piece of work and I value everyones hard work.* I tried modifying the skin myself and failed big time.* I am having a problem with my forum skinning my logo.* Its wanting to use my logo in my forum folder instead of my skins folder.* Any word on that?
1519
for some reason the image manager removes the site url -- which then leaves just images/logos/imagename.filetype
soooo you could remove the wysiwyg editor to fix the logo code then reskin the forum (as we did here on SD.org) or create an image folder under the forum forum and upload the image files as needed...
Robert_J_Ellis
10-02-2005, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by code_renegade@Oct 2 2005, 01:39 AM
Besides naming the version you post here as Graphite Light, what differences does it have compared to the Pro version you are selling on your site?
1517
Blood sweat and Gears :D. I did however answer your question in its full form on sddepot.
hannay
10-02-2005, 10:19 PM
Hi Robert - great skin - i'm using on my site now :)
I have one problem, I was wondering if you could help at all...
I intergrated with VB3 but new threads and replies don't line up.. see attached image.
The website is www.champmanx.co.uk
Any ideas Robert?
many thanks
Richard
Greg Thimmes
10-02-2005, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by hannay@Oct 2 2005, 05:19 PM
Hi Robert - great skin - i'm using on my site now :)
I have one problem, I was wondering if you could help at all...
I intergrated with VB3 but new threads and replies don't line up.. see attached image.
The website is www.champmanx.co.uk
Any ideas Robert?
many thanks
Richard
1526
Im having the same problem, I also notice on this site as well.
Robert_J_Ellis
10-03-2005, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Greg Thimmes@Oct 2 2005, 07:48 PM
Im having the same problem, I also notice on this site as well.
1529
Remove the margin controls from the body tag in your vb css
body
{
background: #E1E1E2;
color: #000000;
font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
----> margin: 5px 10px 10px 10px; <----
padding: 0px;
}
Div's table and margins do not get along. This is the same for IPB.
Robert_J_Ellis
10-03-2005, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Robert_J_Ellis@Oct 3 2005, 07:45 AM
Remove the margin controls from the body tag in your vb css
body
{
background: #E1E1E2;
color: #000000;
font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
----> margin: 5px 10px 10px 10px; <----
padding: 0px;
}
Div's table and margins do not get along. This is the same for IPB.
1541
I thought up a fix for this, I shall be introducing forumskin specific width and height values in the body code, as well, I shall be forcing the forumskin's stacked tables into rows so that they will have to stretch with the rest. It's a little tricky so I'll need a little time to test it on all browsers, but it's how I solved the GP plugin width issue.
Robert_J_Ellis
10-03-2005, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Robert_J_Ellis@Oct 3 2005, 09:42 AM
I thought up a fix for this, I shall be introducing forumskin specific width and height values in the body code, as well, I shall be forcing the forumskin's stacked tables into rows so that they will have to stretch with the rest. It's a little tricky so I'll need a little time to test it on all browsers, but it's how I solved the GP plugin width issue.
1542
Just an update, the row fix worked ^^ and I'm finishing up adding forumskin css width values to the body stylesheet.
chipster
10-06-2005, 11:14 PM
Robert, thank you for such an awesome skin! It's one of, if not the best I've found for my needs. I'm having one small problem though. It has so many plugin positions that my poor dialup connection times out when I'm loading the category function in the control panel. Now I can't get in to move plugins around. Any ideas on how I could speed it up a bit?
Thanks again...
Robert_J_Ellis
10-08-2005, 05:45 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chipster @ Oct 6 2005, 07:14 PM) 1599</div>
Robert, thank you for such an awesome skin! It's one of, if not the best I've found for my needs. I'm having one small problem though. It has so many plugin positions that my poor dialup connection times out when I'm loading the category function in the control panel. Now I can't get in to move plugins around. Any ideas on how I could speed it up a bit?
Thanks again...
[/b]
I'm sorry I ca'nt change the core code right away. Tonight family and I are having an early thanksgiving dinner ( Canadian Thanksgiving ). I'll provide instructions soon, there will be a few small sql instructions which you'll have to run in phpadmin, and if required I can do that too.
- Robert
hannay
10-11-2005, 01:48 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Robert_J_Ellis @ Oct 3 2005, 02:52 PM) 1543</div>
Just an update, the row fix worked ^^ and I'm finishing up adding forumskin css width values to the body stylesheet.
[/b]
Is the skin now fixed for Vb3.5? I wasn't sure if I downloaded the skin again it would be amended?
Regards
Richard
abcohen
10-11-2005, 02:59 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hannay @ Oct 11 2005, 09:48 AM) 1663</div>
Is the skin now fixed for Vb3.5? I wasn't sure if I downloaded the skin again it would be amended?
Regards
Richard
[/b]
whatever zip was last posted in the forum was last posted on the DLM
Robert_J_Ellis
10-13-2005, 12:32 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(abcohen @ Oct 11 2005, 10:59 AM) 1665</div>
whatever zip was last posted in the forum was last posted on the DLM
[/b]
I'm completing A version : RC7 which fixes these issues. I'll provide an update soon. However, you're safe to install it for vb 3.5 at the moment ( I'm pretty sure ).
Robert_J_Ellis
10-19-2005, 02:14 PM
I've sent the new file to ABC, RC7 should be available to you rather soon. Check the changelog, there's some exciting features :).
For those who have an existing header, and do'nt want to lose it, open your original gp_header.css file:
paste this at the top:
<?php
ob_start ("ob_gzhandler");
header("Content-type: text/css; charset: UTF-8");
header("Cache-Control: must-revalidate");
$offset = 60 * 60;
$ExpStr = "Expires: " .
gmdate("D, d M Y H:i:s",
time() + $offset) . " GMT";
header($ExpStr);
?>
and then rename it GP_Header.php and upload it :).
Robert_J_Ellis
10-20-2005, 07:06 PM
ABC, the file which I sent you to you for RC7 should have arrived to you via pm. Please let me know if it has'nt. Rc7 has so many advantages over RC5 that it's rediculous ( I add again that the forum load is almost cut in half ? )
It says when I pm that your PM box is full,
If my Pm got lost or something please let me know, cause I'd like to keep both people enjoying the free versions of Graphite Pro, or the pay version updated to the very latest. If you've been busy or something, it's all good.
People might have noticed that I only offer the install file at subdreamer.org, it's to increase the number of registrants here :). Light Subdreamer users matter to me too :D.
abcohen
10-20-2005, 07:53 PM
hmmm I think you have an issue in the forum skin (COUGH!!!!!!!)
Also anychance of a halloween theme for the upcoming days.
Scott
10-20-2005, 09:39 PM
Nice to see appreciation of his hard work! :rolleyes:
abcohen
10-20-2005, 10:17 PM
ugg why even post in the forum anymore :blink: .. he knows my whit, he knows I'm just kidding :D
Robert_J_Ellis
10-21-2005, 05:47 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(abcohen @ Oct 20 2005, 06:17 PM) 1793</div>
ugg why even post in the forum anymore :blink: .. he knows my whit, he knows I'm just kidding :D
[/b]
lol, yes I knew he was kidding hehe.
2.1.1-2 have an issue with some of the files being replaced in subdreamer every third time that you skin it.
go to the IPB admin panel and find: look and feel > default ipb 2.1 skin > revert all skin customisations
select revert board header and wrapper, and revert css.
once that's done reskin it with subdreamer, and then in look and feel > default ipb 2.1 skin > edit stylesheet ( css advanced mode )
find:
.ipbtable div#ipbwrapper div table tr td, td,
.divpad{ /* gives all tables faux cellpadding of 5px */
padding: 5px;
}
replace with:
.ipbtable td, div#ipbwrapper div table tr td, td,
.divpad{ /* gives all tables faux cellpadding of 5px */
padding: 5px;
}
I believe the issue has to do with the cached design files. Perhaps it is neccessary to create a new IPB2.1+ forum integration file for subdreamer, there've been quite a few changes to the structure.
And Hmm, yes I guess I could release a halloween skin early. It'll be very spooky ^^.
abcohen
10-21-2005, 03:07 PM
well the issue was fixed with just a simple reset of CSS and header/footer on the admin panel of the board and then just a quick reskin... (atleast it works in IE now)
Robert_J_Ellis
10-21-2005, 11:10 PM
.ipbtable div#ipbwrapper div table tr td, td,
.divpad{ /* gives all tables faux cellpadding of 5px */
padding: 5px;
}
replace with:
.ipbtable td, div#ipbwrapper div table tr td, td,
.divpad{ /* gives all tables faux cellpadding of 5px */
padding: 5px;
}
Do'nt forget this for padding ^^
abcohen
10-22-2005, 12:43 AM
When I do a find and replace I dont have anything like that...
Robert_J_Ellis
10-22-2005, 12:40 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(abcohen @ Oct 21 2005, 08:43 PM) 1818</div>
When I do a find and replace I dont have anything like that...
[/b]
Look in the page source below, you can find it in the advanced css editor, you see it removes padding, because subdreamer by default removes the td tag on that line, forcing two commands to merge. Like I said before find it in look and feel > ipb default 2.1 > edit stylesheet > advanced mode
/*
* ========================================
* Set up IPB table
* ========================================
*/
.ipbtable { width:100% }
table.ipbtable,
tr.ipbtable,
td.ipbtable
{ /* required for text in tables, because tables do not inherit from body */
<!--StartSdCssBackground-->background: transparent;<!--EndSdCssBackground-->
color: #222;
font-size: 11px;
<!--StartSdCssLineHeight-->line-height: 135%;<!--EndSdCssLineHeight-->
}
.ipbtable div#ipbwrapper div table tr td,
.divpad{ /* gives all tables faux cellpadding of 5px */
padding: 5px;
}
I'm sure Subduck will have a new version soon that supports 2.1 and 2.2.2 completely; just a matter of time.
abcohen
10-22-2005, 02:22 PM
found it :P
Robert_J_Ellis
10-22-2005, 06:12 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(abcohen @ Oct 22 2005, 10:22 AM) 1824</div>
found it :P
[/b]
Happy to help :)
TheMasterG
11-16-2005, 10:05 AM
Love this skin, just wondering why on every page load(on this site and my own test site) the page is aligned to the right and only centres just before finishing loading?(ie. because of using fixed width the page "jumps" from right of screen to centre just before finishing loading, possibly after something important is loaded/downloaded) I find it very annoying and I don't think it looks too good, the skin itself is awesome though?
Is there a fix???
(Hope this makes sense....)
Robert_J_Ellis
11-17-2005, 09:34 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TheMasterG @ Nov 16 2005, 06:05 AM) 2133</div>
Love this skin, just wondering why on every page load(on this site and my own test site) the page is aligned to the right and only centres just before finishing loading?(ie. because of using fixed width the page "jumps" from right of screen to centre just before finishing loading, possibly after something important is loaded/downloaded) I find it very annoying and I don't think it looks too good, the skin itself is awesome though?
Is there a fix???
(Hope this makes sense....)
[/b]
Yes, this has bothered me as well. In using a small amount of inline style widths I semi-solved the problem. However, tables always take a sec to load up, because of this the css formatting is'nt initiated instantaneously. There will be a fix for this soon I'm sure, possibly even a simple php switch - I'm not sure right now. I'm busy getting some products out and finishing a christmas skin for .org.
Give it time, there's plenty on the way; and much room for improvement.
TheMasterG
11-22-2005, 11:13 AM
Cool, would be great to see a fix and more development is always good of course :D
It seems that the "jumping" problem isn't a problem in IE, it's just Firefox that it's very noticeable.(maybe other browsers, I don't know).
B)
william
12-07-2005, 09:30 PM
Robert,
First I would like to say THANK YOU!!! This skin is what I was dreaming of for my
new site. It gives me all the options I need to be a TRUE content manager! Before
I begin I applogize for the length of this post, it will be long.
I have a few issues, a suggestion or two and then a question (possible new paying
member...ME, depending on answer :P )
Issue #1
Man why can't IE work like FF, FF at least knows what cells and tables are and what
Well the Header graphic not showing in IE, but displays beautifully in FF.(see below)
I did these possible fixes
.ipbtable div#ipbwrapper div table tr td, td,
.divpad{ /* gives all tables faux cellpadding of 5px */
padding: 5px;
}
replace with
.ipbtable td, div#ipbwrapper div table tr td, td,
.divpad{ /* gives all tables faux cellpadding of 5px */
padding: 5px;
}
Which fixed the forums formating issue, GREAT TIP!
AND
Remove the margin controls from the body tag in my CSS for IPB (as state above)
Issue #2 Category position in forum skin seems to bunch up and doesn't space out
like in the rest of SubDreamer...is there a mod/fix for this? (see below)
Issue #3 How do I change the color between the forums and your skin...I guess
I am asking where is the setting for changing that background color? (see below)
Issue #4 Why won't your skin respond the SD category image in place of text option? When wanting to use images instead of plain text the won't show with your skin.
FIRE FOX
[attachmentid=204]
IE
[attachmentid=205]
SUGGESTION
Your skin has the same issues that every other SD skin has, which is the lack of
drop downs, when you switch to the forums skin, are you working on a fix for this?
You may want to take a look at the link that allows the downloading of the background
image mod for this skin...it comes up with an apache error.
Please don't name your skins all the same...since I am not a member I can't see for sure
but the two you have out for free this one and the hallowed one are named the same and
there for can't be used interchangably for seasons...which kinda blows. Can you fix that?
QUESTION
Earlier in this thread you had stated that you could do subtle changes to this skin
for a member if he paid to join the site. I was wondering if that was your standing
policy? For example I am interested in paying to join, because I think you are moving
in the right direction for SubDreamer to consider with your skins and mods. BUT I
was wondering if I could get some assistance in a background and color changes to
better match my theme and header.
Thanks for your help and answers in advance!!!
Will
Hey !
I have one question, whay there when I add subcatagory my menu get messed up ? If there is no subcatagory everything is okey if i add just one it looks like this http://www.studentarija.net/pro/
Have a nice day !
Terminator1138
01-06-2006, 02:02 AM
set category width in your settings see if that works..
kushaaal
01-06-2006, 10:05 AM
Greetings,
When I put my mouse over categories, the second image is formed of the category, but it is formed at a distance, hence distort the view of category. I am attahcing an image of my website!
I have been raising this issue but not yet solved.
[attachmentid=228]
Kindly help!
Regards,
Terminator1138
01-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Kushal, could it be you have too many menu items for the skin ? Just a thought, have you tried removing a few and seeing if that works in conjunction with set cat widths?
kushaaal
01-06-2006, 04:56 PM
Well I tried that too, see the attachment! But the same stuff Terminator! :huh:
[attachmentid=229]
Have you edited the CSS in for the dropdown menu?
Terminator1138
01-06-2006, 06:42 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr. Kushal Pathak @ Jan 6 2006, 11:56 AM) 2682</div>
Well I tried that too, see the attachment! But the same stuff Terminator! :huh:
[attachmentid=229]
[/b]
hmmm, could it be that the text string is long? You might have to edit the css like iggy stated.
william
01-06-2006, 06:48 PM
Man I got all excited that maybe my issues got addressed after waiting almost a month when I got the email that this thread was active...and not one of my issues was addressed :(
kushaaal
01-06-2006, 06:54 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(IGGY @ Jan 7 2006, 12:01 AM) 2683</div>
Have you edited the CSS in for the dropdown menu?
[/b]
Nope I did not do anything except to upload the skin. I ran the same skin at my other subdreamer website and it is fine. To correct this I had even re-uploaded the complete Graphite, but the problem still persist!
Ok, so is the problem that the links are stacking up ontop of each other?
Why are there two formats of text, the black and the bold blue?
kushaaal
01-06-2006, 08:29 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(IGGY @ Jan 7 2006, 02:54 AM) 2688</div>
Ok, so is the problem that the links are stacking up ontop of each other?
Why are there two formats of text, the black and the bold blue?
[/b]
Well, the problem is what you stated in your second para, there is no stacking of categories. The only problem as you rightly said in second para is: When I put my mouse over the category, it start showing two set of texts, one back and one blue, generally I had found in my other graphite website, the moment I keep my mouse over category, it glows!
I see are you using the drop down menu?
Robert_J_Ellis
01-09-2006, 04:15 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(IGGY @ Jan 6 2006, 04:31 PM) 2690</div>
I see are you using the drop down menu?
[/b]
I've noticed other customers with similiar responses about the dropdown menu. I will look into this; and hopefully the solution will present itself in due time.
william
01-11-2006, 03:50 PM
Robert, I know you just got back and you're probably swapped, but when you get a second can you read my post above (post #62) (http://www.subdreamer.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=226&view=findpost&p=2366) and respond.
Thank you very much
Will
Robert_J_Ellis
01-11-2006, 05:46 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(william @ Jan 11 2006, 11:50 AM) 2875</div>
Robert, I know you just got back and you're probably swapped, but when you get a second can you read my post above (post #62) (http://www.subdreamer.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=226&view=findpost&p=2366) and respond.
Thank you very much
Will
[/b]
I'll look over all of these issues, and get the downloads section for mods working at sddepot. There had been much talk about changing the way graphite works for some time before I was away. I sort of re-invented dropdowns somewhat on my newer graphite themes; making them compliant but also controlled by css entirely.
I plan soon to offer all of my themes in both standalone and graphite versions. This should sit well with a lot of people. The name Graphite is being changed, as is the way it works; I've had xml in mind for the functions for some time.
I'll attempt to get more modifications out, but the amount of work going in to this project is starting to stack up, i need to consider my options before deciding which direction to take subdreamers, and other free skins. Perhaps I could spice them up and add more functionality as a pro upgrade, or leave it free.
I'll look at that category image thing pronto, as well as the dropdown functionality.
william
01-11-2006, 06:56 PM
Thanks Robert...Now that kind of response makes me want to join up on your site...I'll be doing that shortly after moving some money around on paypal..
Thanks for the quick response!
Robert_J_Ellis
01-11-2006, 07:05 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(william @ Jan 11 2006, 02:56 PM) 2888</div>
Thanks Robert...Now that kind of response makes me want to join up on your site...I'll be doing that shortly after moving some money around on paypal..
Thanks for the quick response!
[/b]
Glad I could help William.
Robert_J_Ellis
01-13-2006, 02:21 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Robert_J_Ellis @ Jan 11 2006, 03:05 PM) 2891</div>
Glad I could help William.
[/b]
Though I might add a few mods for the free version I mean to make a pro version of subdreamers. It's quite successfull and I think the new subdreamers2 on its way should facilitate people with different tastes. There will be an update to the free version in the next few weeks - some code modifications which I've used in the newer sddepot skins should improve subdreamers quite a lot.
kushaaal
01-13-2006, 03:48 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Robert_J_Ellis @ Jan 13 2006, 08:51 AM) 2922</div>
Though I might add a few mods for the free version I mean to make a pro version of subdreamers. It's quite successfull and I think the new subdreamers2 on its way should facilitate people with different tastes. There will be an update to the free version in the next few weeks - some code modifications which I've used in the newer sddepot skins should improve subdreamers quite a lot.
[/b]
And I guess my issue of category view distortion is also addressed.
IS there a way to increase the width of the graphite pro to full scree, as in my 17' monitor, it is very in the middle.
Robert_J_Ellis
01-13-2006, 04:13 AM
There sure is :)
Most site changes are loacated in:
skins/Graphite_Pro/css/effects/GP_Effects.php
Find:
________________________________
/* +====================================+ */
/* | Site Width Values ( Not Forum's ) | */
/* +====================================+ */
/* -- the parent table -- */
#gp_s {
height: 0%;
}
/* -- left column width -- */
#gp_s_l1 {
/* width: 15%; */
}
/* -- center column width / height -- */
#gp_s_c {
width: 785px;
height: 100%;
}
/* -- right column width -- */
#gp_s_r1 {
/* width: 15%; */
}
/* -- left / right 1,2 row heights -- */
#gp_s_l1, #gp_s_l2 {
height: 50%;
}
/* -- minimum content width ( has to be a pixel value, cannot be a percentage. ) -- */
#gp_cont_width {
width: 520px;
}
________________________________
So if you want your site to be liquid ( full page width ) graphite makes this very simple. I've marked these values in red, and below there is a changed file for example.
________________________________
/* +====================================+ */
/* | Site Width Values ( Not Forum's ) | */
/* +====================================+ */
/* -- the parent table -- */
#gp_s {
height: 0%;
}
/* -- left column width -- */
#gp_s_l1 {
width: 1%;
}
/* -- center column width / height -- */
#gp_s_c {
width: 98%;
height: 100%;
}
/* -- right column width -- */
#gp_s_r1 {
width: 1%;
}
/* -- left / right 1,2 row heights -- */
#gp_s_l1, #gp_s_l2 {
height: 50%;
}
/* -- minimum content width ( has to be a pixel value, cannot be a percentage. ) -- */
#gp_cont_width {
width: 520px;
}
________________________________
Now Forum-specific code will always be found in:
skins/Graphite_Pro/css/themes/GP_Body.php
this step is much like the last.
Find ( in GP_Body.php )
________________________________
/* +====================================+ */
/* | Forum Width Values ( Not Site's ) | */
/* +====================================+ */
/* -- the parent table -- */
#gp_f {
height: 0%;
}
/* -- left column width -- */
#gp_f_l1 {
/* width: 15%; */
}
/* -- center column width / height -- */
#gp_f_c {
width: 785px;
height: 100%;
}
/* -- right column width -- */
#gp_f_r1 {
/* width: 15%; */
}
/* -- left / right 1,2 row heights -- */
#gp_f_l1, #gp_f_l2 {
height: 50%;
}
/* -- minimum content width ( has to be a pixel value, cannot be a percentage. ) -- */
#gp_f_cont_width {
width: 480px;
}
________________________________
And change it to ( like in the last step )
________________________________
/* +====================================+ */
/* | Forum Width Values ( Not Site's ) | */
/* +====================================+ */
/* -- the parent table -- */
#gp_f {
height: 0%;
}
/* -- left column width -- */
#gp_f_l1 {
width: 1%;
}
/* -- center column width / height -- */
#gp_f_c {
width: 98%;
height: 100%;
}
/* -- right column width -- */
#gp_f_r1 {
width: 1%;
}
/* -- left / right 1,2 row heights -- */
#gp_f_l1, #gp_f_l2 {
height: 50%;
}
/* -- minimum content width ( has to be a pixel value, cannot be a percentage. ) -- */
#gp_f_cont_width {
width: 480px;
}
________________________________
All there is to it :)
kushaaal
01-13-2006, 05:33 PM
Thanks! It was great!
Kindly tell me how to change the default color of the font as rigth now the color is somewhat grey and I want the color to be black!
Robert, I'm still not able to solve the distortion of category issue, kindly suggest me :mellow:
william
01-13-2006, 10:06 PM
Robert, thanks for the update, but now I have an obvious question...whats the difference in the pro skin vs the free?
Robert_J_Ellis
01-14-2006, 03:49 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr. Kushal Pathak @ Jan 13 2006, 01:33 PM) 2966</div>
Thanks! It was great!
Kindly tell me how to change the default color of the font as rigth now the color is somewhat grey and I want the color to be black!
Robert, I'm still not able to solve the distortion of category issue, kindly suggest me :mellow:
[/b]
( before I start with the site text issue, let me explain that graphite allows you to control these colours individually per plugin, with that in mind you'll understand )
Allright, in: skins/Graphite_Pro/css/effect/GP_Effects.php
( this contains site and plugin specific code )
find:
( I have marked the relevant sections in red )
Center Column
___________________
/* +=======================================+ */
/* | Center Plugin Text / Link formatting | */
/* +=======================================+ */
/* Center - Title Text */
span.plc_tit {
color: #FFFFFF;
font-weight: bold;
font-size: 9pt;
font-variant: inherit;
}
/* Center - Content Text */
td.gp_sw_c,
td.gp_sw_c table,
gp_sw_c div {
color : #7D7D7D;
}
__________________
And for the side plugins:
__________________
/* +================================================= =+ */
/* | Bevelled Plugin left/right Text/Link formatting | */
/* +================================================= =+ */
/* Bevelled - left/right Title Cell -- */
td.gp_pb_title_r, td.gp_pb_title_l {
text-align: left;
}
/* Bevelled - left/right Title Text */
span.b_title {
color: #FFFFFF;
font-weight: bold;
}
/* -- bevelled plugin left/right content text -- */
td.gp_pb_content_l,
td.gp_pb_content_r,
td.gp_pb_content_l table,
td.gp_pb_content_r table,
td.gp_pb_content_l div,
td.gp_pb_content_r div {
color: rgb(222,235,248);
}
___________________
Where it says color: , you can make it a hex value for black like so:
color: #000000;
or you can use an rgb value:
color: rgb(0,0,0);
You should probably have plenty of ideas now, have fun :). I'll be installing this version of subdreamers on a test site, and will let you know of this fix for the categories asap.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(william @ Jan 13 2006, 06:06 PM) 2969</div>
Robert, thanks for the update, but now I have an obvious question...whats the difference in the pro skin vs the free?
[/b]
I plan to build in new menu types for the pro version, including tabs, gel buttons, a vertical menu, and the skin will be redesigned to look smoother and crisper. There will also be 3 optional background types and colours, and a slew of improvements that I have'nt even thought of yet I'm sure.
I'll have to complete what's on my site first, and a few requests from customers, but I should be able to get started on this in 4 days time ( I will pm you when I start ). Note that I'll be posting in my sites blog with details and plenty of screenshots
- Robert
kushaaal
01-14-2006, 08:44 AM
That was really cool! Thanks Robert for your support!
DO post around your test site link. Thanks!
TheMasterG
01-27-2006, 01:18 AM
Is there a lot of work in modifying this skin? Whether it be colour schemes, column widths or ... I dunno, menu layouts or whatever...?
Robert_J_Ellis
01-27-2006, 01:42 AM
Not really, if you never wanted to change it - you'd just leave it like it was. However, if you wanted to change it, everything is there waiting. Lots of choice was the idea - because not everyone can agree on what's best.
Robert_J_Ellis
02-08-2006, 02:22 AM
Ok, am adding the new RC8 version of Subdreamers tommorow.
Here's a link to the screenshot :).
http://www.sddepot.com/community/index.php...eq=attach&id=10 (http://www.sddepot.com/community/index.php?automodule=blog&req=attach&id=10)
Cleaner, faster, and much nicer looking in my opinion.
Robert_J_Ellis
02-09-2006, 04:00 PM
Tommorow being relative to my oblong hours as of late, uploading Subdreamers RC8 in a few hours :).
william
02-09-2006, 04:27 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Robert_J_Ellis @ Jan 13 2006, 08:49 PM) 2975</div>
I plan to build in new menu types for the pro version, including tabs, gel buttons, a vertical menu, and the skin will be redesigned to look smoother and crisper. There will also be 3 optional background types and colours, and a slew of improvements that I have'nt even thought of yet I'm sure.
I'll have to complete what's on my site first, and a few requests from customers, but I should be able to get started on this in 4 days time ( I will pm you when I start ). Note that I'll be posting in my sites blog with details and plenty of screenshots
- Robert
[/b]
Thank you very much Robert, this has prompted me to PAY YOU to get IN as a member :D I love your work thus far and if you indeed are doing the above I am on pins and needles till it pops (so to speak) Thanks very much for the wonderful communication!
Robert_J_Ellis
02-09-2006, 04:47 PM
Well Subdreamers2 is a while off, but this newest version will knock your socks off, and it's free. Xhtml valid, completely rebuilt css structure, improved everything.
Sure, the geltabs, etc etc etc is coming for the commercial version, but the vertical menu will take some more engineering. You do'nt need to pay to enjoy Subdreamers RC8 :).
Subdreamers2 will be the piece de la resistance though, I salivate thinking about it nightly.
Edit: I'll never learn with these promises of release time. However, I'll get back on it as soon as I wake up.
Robert_J_Ellis
02-11-2006, 05:49 AM
Uploading now, it's worth the wait. thanks for everyone's patience :).
Get it here:
http://www.subdreamer.org/sd_skins/p13_sec...2/p13_fileid/30 (http://www.subdreamer.org/sd_skins/p13_sectionid/2/p13_fileid/30)
hannay
02-13-2006, 04:02 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Robert_J_Ellis @ Feb 11 2006, 06:49 AM) 3758</div>
Uploading now, it's worth the wait. thanks for everyone's patience :).
Get it here:
http://www.subdreamer.org/sd_skins/p13_sec...2/p13_fileid/30 (http://www.subdreamer.org/sd_skins/p13_sectionid/2/p13_fileid/30)
[/b]
Thanks Robert - this is by far the best skin for SD :)
However, after installing, i'm still having trouble with VB not alligning properly? Is this a known prob with this skin? When you click on the forum menu, it doesn't line up properly, but if you refresh it's better. It's a minor thing, but an annoying one :)
Robert_J_Ellis
02-13-2006, 04:36 PM
A screenshot would help, I have'nt had too many issues with VB, but the more bug reports I get, the more I can help.
Robert_J_Ellis
02-13-2006, 07:32 PM
Ok, I added a brief tutorial to the very first post which explains how to change the various text colours. Either skip back to page 1 ( the << button ) or have this link come up in a popup window.
http://www.subdreamer.org/forum/index.php?...&st=0#entry1354 (http://www.subdreamer.org/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=12&t=226&st=0#entry1354)
hannay
02-14-2006, 01:24 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Robert_J_Ellis @ Feb 13 2006, 05:36 PM) 3799</div>
A screenshot would help, I have'nt had too many issues with VB, but the more bug reports I get, the more I can help.
[/b]
Thanks for your reply
Its a little better using Firefox - so i guess its an IE problem
you can see the site - www.champmanx.co.uk - but forums require registration to view.
Robert_J_Ellis
02-14-2006, 09:57 PM
That's not RC8, that's RC7, please download the newest version. This fix and others have been resolved.
hannay
02-15-2006, 09:14 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Robert_J_Ellis @ Feb 14 2006, 10:57 PM) 3836</div>
That's not RC8, that's RC7, please download the newest version. This fix and others have been resolved.
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:lol: oops, sorted now
It looks really good Robert - smart work :)
Robert_J_Ellis
02-15-2006, 11:32 AM
Thanks :), GP sure has come a long way :).
hannay
02-16-2006, 10:28 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Robert_J_Ellis @ Feb 15 2006, 12:32 PM) 3859</div>
Thanks :), GP sure has come a long way :).
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I tried on Firefox, its pretty good, but does change size slightly whe nyou load the forums. Nothing too bad though :) Thought i'd let you know.
Robert_J_Ellis
02-16-2006, 10:37 AM
Yeah, you'd have to size your vb to match if you wanted to avoid that, but otherwise - everything seems to be rolling on.
Now that RC8 has been released, and the bugs were worked out,- it's become much less taxing to make different themes for it - which is great news for me :).
Squeegie
02-22-2006, 08:28 AM
i have it isntalled and running! best free skin i have found!!!
http://www.steveryder.org/site
Robert_J_Ellis
02-22-2006, 09:40 PM
Glad you like it mate :), there's a new version - you might want to check out the screenshot. Darker blues, cleaner lines, and quite a bit more speed :).
Squeegie
02-23-2006, 04:07 AM
updated, thnx rob
Robert_J_Ellis
02-23-2006, 04:34 AM
Do'nt forget about the phpbb fix, it prevents categories from getting all messed.
You can find it in the first post :).
Robert_J_Ellis
02-23-2006, 05:03 AM
Squeegie, Could you pm me with advice to run my own radio station ? You rule, listened to yours - and now I want one.
Squeegie
02-23-2006, 06:45 AM
i did the code and everything is fine now! thnx, also its not MY radio station its my clans. Clan [uBp], if youve seen pyromanci around here hes our webmaster. I MIGHT have a radio show and if i do it will start next week some time, but the whole station is the clans. I dont personally run it [uBp]Transporter does. He knows everything about it so if you have a question you can contact him here.....
http://media.clanubp.com
i think his contact info is there, if not just tell me and ill pm you his info
Robert_J_Ellis
02-23-2006, 08:57 AM
Sweet, thanks mate - I'll do some research; if I have any more questions I'll follow that link and do that up. A radio station is'nt something I could do right away.. but it's a fun thought for the future :D.
Traiman
02-23-2006, 10:22 AM
Error install
Fatal error: Cannot redeclare p2_sendemail() (previously declared in c:\appserv\www\plugins\p2_news\news.php:42) in c:\appserv\www\plugins\p2_news\news.php on line 42[/b]
Robert_J_Ellis
02-23-2006, 11:08 AM
The odd time you'll have a few glitches when switching a skin. Play around with settings and it'll work.
Edit: I just noticed there's a c:\ in there, what's that about ?
stueymac
03-03-2006, 11:14 AM
I get this error as well strangely.
Fatal error: Cannot redeclare p2_sendemail() (previously declared in /home/blahblah/public_html/cms/plugins/p2_news/news.php:42) in /home/blahblah/public_html/cms/plugins/p2_news/news.php on line 42
Am testing it 2.3 RC1 though not in 2.2.4
Stueymac
Robert_J_Ellis
03-03-2006, 11:36 AM
I have'nt done any of the neccessary changes to make it rc3 compatible yet, and wo'nt until it's final.
but it seems to be working fine for me either way, but that does'nt mean there is'nt an issue. When I've updated to the newest 2.3 final, if there's still an issue, please let me know.
stueymac
03-03-2006, 11:47 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Robert_J_Ellis @ Mar 3 2006, 12:36 PM) 4303</div>
I have'nt done any of the neccessary changes to make it rc3 compatible yet, and wo'nt until it's final.
but it seems to be working fine for me either way, but that does'nt mean there is'nt an issue. When I've updated to the newest 2.3 final, if there's still an issue, please let me know.
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Will do, foever tinkering so will see how it performs. Loving it so far though, a classic skin indeed.
Stueymac
Fatal error: Cannot redeclare p2_sendemail() (previously declared in /home/blahblah/public_html/cms/plugins/p2_news/news.php:42) in /home/blahblah/public_html/cms/plugins/p2_news/news.php on line 42
I was getting the same error with some of my skins. Spib tells me that it may be the skin.
Check out this thread:
http://www.subdreamer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6427
After reading this thread:
http://www.subdreamer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6440
It may be the use of the $i variable.
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Yes, confirmed it has to do with using the $i variable in skins.
Robert_J_Ellis
03-03-2006, 06:46 PM
Hmm, thanks Iggy.
stueymac
03-07-2006, 03:37 PM
Whenever I try to create sub categories in SD with the Graphite Pro skin they always mess up the navigation menu, the category names all drift off the page or span two lines or something else mad, now I presume the option in SD for 'Category Menu Width' would correct this problem? What I don't quite follow is what figure to put in there to change the menu widths, I've tried allsorts and nothing seems to make much difference. Is there a sort of rule of thumb for what the figures should be or is it all a matter of trial and error?
Regards
Stueymac
Scott
03-07-2006, 03:41 PM
Hi stueymac, do you have the latest version of Subdreamers, RC8, as I believe that issue was fixed in that. Although I could be wrong!
stueymac
03-07-2006, 03:54 PM
Hi Scott. Using 2.2.4 at the moment, tried it on my test site using the latest RC but I still seem to get problems.
Edited to add, sorry yes I'm using RC8 of the skin, was thinking of SD at the time!
Robert_J_Ellis
03-07-2006, 05:47 PM
It's really all a matter of trial and error.
I use my favorite usefull prog neopaint.
basically make all of your categories larger than they're supposed to be, press the print screen button on the site; Once that's done, use the marquee tool, and select around the text. View the width stats in the status bar, write them down and there are perfectly valid values.
Basically, I find it's a good rule of thumb to add say 10, 12 pixels on either side of text, however before it would create a different width for menus in the site, forumskin.
Now with dropdowns in the forumskin once 2.3 is final - those measurements will be site wide :), So I'm pleased with that.
Squeegie
03-21-2006, 08:25 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(stueymac @ Mar 7 2006, 08:37 AM) 4380</div>
Whenever I try to create sub categories in SD with the Graphite Pro skin they always mess up the navigation menu, the category names all drift off the page or span two lines or something else mad, now I presume the option in SD for 'Category Menu Width' would correct this problem? What I don't quite follow is what figure to put in there to change the menu widths, I've tried allsorts and nothing seems to make much difference. Is there a sort of rule of thumb for what the figures should be or is it all a matter of trial and error?
Regards
Stueymac
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When your in your admin panel click your categories section where all your menus are. Click on your main categories and change the size from 45-90 depending on how long the text is. This should fix that problem but youll have to try out numbers to get the right look
why is not this information, or at the very least this information linked to with the down load of the skin... The only file that says README is a self absorbed copywrite statement... which sure goes against rule
3) Advertising on Subdreamer
* 3.1 - We do not allow people to post threads, Send private messages, Email users here that advertise or solicit any products or services unless specifically requested by the involved party.[/b]
I have paid for branding free on ALL of my subdreamer licences, surely the READ ME which offers penalties if the designed by sddepot is removed, what penalties exactly? Subdreamer.org is part of the subdreamer group of websites, I would have thought that in order to post skins here (or anything else) you would at the very least have to abide by the spirit of the licence that we the pro users have paid for.
Otherwise there is clearly little point in pro users fequenting this forum, given that I was directed here by RJE, as the place to go.
I might also add, that when receiving eulogies on subdreamer pro forum, he did not direct people here, he just took a bow, but when I politely raised a problem with one of the (on the most part - excellent) skins he has produced, suddenly it's not a topic for the pro forum... a bit dissapointing to be honest... but seeing as I have been directed here, then I feel that I should express my thoughts, in as concise a manner as possible.
I notice now that I am here I am not the only person who has had problems with submenu plugin... a baisc fundamental of an SD site.
The tread on the Pro site in question can be found below:-
http://www.subdreamer.com/forum/showthread...40155#post40155 (http://www.subdreamer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=40155#post40155)
The problem is for me that if I have a problem with something posted here, and the author is the moderator, and the moderators can implement the rules as they see fit... I am better of discussing it on the pro site, where the author is not a moderator.
If you catch my drift...
thank you for your time
=8¬)
I guess that having been directed here by RJE from subdreamer.com, for answers to my questions, for some reason he is suddenly unavailable for comment... well never mind eh?
Scott
04-03-2006, 06:47 PM
Give him a chance to reply first..
Robert_J_Ellis
04-03-2006, 07:20 PM
If you'd like branding free which you've paid for, buy the product.
I'm not responding to most of that paragraph, I'm not involving myself in a trollfest; Kindly use more discretion in the future.
I spend a lot of time making these skins, and if you have a constructive question, or comment - I'm all ears, and I'll try and answer them in a timely and professional manner.
I have bought the product it is called subdreamer pro. It is not a troll fest it is a serious point, which if you choose to ignor it that is your choice.
How ever, please be clear, what penalty am I going to suffer if I remove your graphic...?
I made my contsructive comments on subdreamer pro site, and you directed me here, do I have to repeat myself?
It would have been simpler just to address the issues I raised in a perfectly pleasant and constructive manner. Now you accuse me of trolling. I guess I fell into that trap... but I did so with my eyes fully open...
Well, seeing as we are here, and seeing as you don't care to address the issues (mr moderator) I repeat
3) Advertising on Subdreamer
* 3.1 - We do not allow people to post threads, Send private messages, Email users here that advertise or solicit any products or services unless specifically requested by the involved party.[/b]
Why don't you want to address this issue? It's not a troll... blimey if every question that you don't wish to answer is a troll, perhaps you should distinguish between your comercial website, and your task as a moderator and contributer to the subdreamer group of sites.
I think that it is great that you are kind enough to give you hard work to .org. But I don't beleive it is in the spirit of the subdreamer commmunity for you (in particular) to advertise your offerings - with references to your commercial site - and deny branding free paid up Pro users from being branding free. It means you have more priveledges that than subduck, and subdreamer... the actual organisation that you are basing your business upon... seems highly unfair to me. If I choose the branding free option which costs me good money, subdreamer don't get a credit but you do...!! That is not on mate. You did not design subdreamer, nor did you design the content I wish to include in your skins.
If you can't see where I am comming from, then that is a shame. If you can't give.. without taking.. and I would have thought that the exposure you are giving yourself should be reward in it's self... then take your skins and stick them back on your website, and spare us the greif.
I ask, one more time, what penalties can we expect for removing your graphic? (if we are branding free clients of subdreamer?)
I reeks of exploitation of the subdreamer brand to me, and I am astonished that this has not been noticed before.
Troll... don't make me laugh ... Voltaire ha ha ha
Now answer the blooming question...
Your skins are great, but you spoil them with your attitude.
Thank you for listening.
Robert_J_Ellis
04-04-2006, 04:44 AM
This is a community site, please use more discretion. Added a warning.
Now, to answer the question:
If someone were to remove the copyright image, I would first email this user - asking politely that if they wanted to use a skin of my design without the copyright, that they consider subscribing to my services. If that message went unheeded, I would forward that to the server provider - who would be the end judge, most servers do not allow warez, an illegal product is a ware.
Removal of copyrights is illegal if stated so, you admittedly respect this point when it comes to subdreamer, if you have personal problems with myself or my products - please, email me, I'll explain my thoughts and reasons in a calm, and mature light, but doing this in a public fashion is uncalled for, and can only lead to no good.
72dpi
04-04-2006, 06:39 AM
Good job Robert, glad to know u busy!.
Just one thing for all skin developers.
if you create a skin, and wrap the whole lot in a "table", the page will not load by sections, instead, will try & write all content to screen once all elements within that table have loaded.
I try & make sure in my designs, that i break the page into, header, navigation, content & footer, this will dramatically reduce load time, and screen display, hence no more "aligned-right" problems.
Hope this gives food for thought!.
keep up the great work Robert, your input is awesome!
Robert_J_Ellis
04-04-2006, 06:54 AM
Thanks mate, I really appreciate everyones support, and I'll have some new stuff to play around with soon :).
I've considered seperating the content into headers and footers, but ultimately there are a few div driven forums which like to break tables. The only way I can prevent one table being wider than the other is to make sure that their 100% widths are encapsulated in a table row.
At one point I'd like to break away from tables alltogether, I've considered using paragraphs, lately I've been using them more and more, with css to control their behaviour; I've noticed that the support for them is unparrellelled.
With only one table to maintain the overall sizes, that'd be pretty cool - and I bet they'd load incredibly faster.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTEThis is a community site, please use more discretion. Added a warning.[/b] Is this some kind of short hand that I don't understand ?[/b][/quote]
Response: Using the IPB forum's warning system - all of your posts now need to approved by a moderator for a period of 31 days.
I'll say it again.... All my copies of subdreamer are branding free, this is an official subdreamer website.[/b]
Response: This is the official subdreamer community website. Where the community volunteers its time to develop skins and plugins. The fact that I'm a moderator has nothing to do with putting a copyright in one of my skins.
Using one of your skins downloaded from THIS site ligitimately falls under the subdreamer umberella.[/b]
Response: That's not the case, and there is plenty of skins with a copyright image, or textual link to the developers site.
Full stop.[/b]
Response: Yes, please do, this achieves nothing.
This is my last response to this line of questioning. We're here to help and develop free software to be used with the subdreamer product, not to abuse one another - and not to take out our frustrations upon other people here wether they be guests, members, contributers, moderators or administrators.
Robert_J_Ellis
04-07-2006, 08:59 AM
Ok, updated suballure to version 1.1.1; this fixes the inability to use static width.
get the download here:
http://www.subdreamer.org/sd_skins/p13_sec...2/p13_fileid/30 (http://www.subdreamer.org/sd_skins/p13_sectionid/2/p13_fileid/30)
I've also changed the .php css files to standard css to make suballure compatible with rc2's .htaccess gzip function.
Once the universal menu is out of the beta stage, and the bugs are worked out, it'll get added too - meaning dropdown menus in the forumskin will become a reality, as will a better looking menu system.
thanks
stueymac
06-18-2006, 08:40 PM
Hi Robert
Firstly my apologies have looked through the thread and may have missed the answer already! Been away for a while so a bit out of the loop as it were.
Will the Graphite_Pro skin work ok with the latest Sub 232? I posted previously about some issues I was having with one of the last RC versions and Graphite Pro.
Regards
Stueymac
Robert_J_Ellis
06-18-2006, 11:19 PM
Should work allright :), though I intend to add the new menu system to this skin shortly - improves it quite a bit.
Robert_J_Ellis
07-25-2006, 06:19 AM
Ok, I've added the SD Uinversal menu to this skin, and I've improved the look of the header, included is the pro header which is quite attractive.
Get it here:
http://www.subdreamer.org/sd_skins/p13_sec...2/p13_fileid/30 (http://www.subdreamer.org/sd_skins/p13_sectionid/2/p13_fileid/30)
TheMasterG
12-01-2006, 11:05 PM
Hey man,
I'm trying to figure out what setting determines the column width in Graphite Pro? I don't have the latest version installed but could you point me in the right direction on where the width is set?
Different plugins seem to be changing the column widths on different pages - is it the plugin then that is determining the width? Even looking at the source i can't decipher where the width is set, think it's in a class parameter though :confused:
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